number but if you look at what we have had in past congress, congress has had a challenge and we have a ryan planned that not once but twice my opponent voted for that continues to give additional benefits and cuts to the most fortunate americans additional subsidies to large oil companies and companies shipping jobs overseas and to pay for that, it is asking seniors to take medicare and the medicare guarantee and turn it into a voucher which will cost seniors $6400 more year and taking students and asking them to pay more for student loans and cutting pell grants. sticking middle-class families and putting an average increase on their taxes by at least $1300. >> moderator: what i'm hearing you say is a general sense of fairness the 70/30. congressman two years ago before you are elected to congress he signed a pledge for grover norquist's americans for tax reform to never raise taxes but you would consider deficit reduction solutions that would include increased revenue. why the change? subor it talks about if you're going to lower rates or raise rates, you have to lower them and another an